Application. Glad to see the Kiwis are back at it but their pumps reliability makes replacements far between. Hi, The banjo fittings need to be good and tight needing the help of a vice. The same goes for the electrical connectors which can be renewed if required and as a tip always use new washers for the banjo connections when changing the pump. Fuel line attachment was straightforward. Maggy, my 1974 MGB roadster is definitely a driver. I bought one from the MGB Hive for only 52.50 GBP. And will this one work? Replacement Fuel Gasket . I dont think this side of the story ever made it on the message boards. Talk with Graham and I bet within 5 minutes hell mention the continual quality improvement program his company pursues. And its not a nice noise. More details 01. But in order for a regulator to be truly effective, a loop type fuel feed with a return to the tank would have to be fitted (ideally). AUA1422 - UNION - OUTLET - 62-64 AUA1422 - MGB OUTLET UNION - 1962-1964 Fitted up to chassis number GHN3-44438. Here is high praise: When a pro racer BUYS your product rather than seeking out a sponsorship from another pump manufacturer! First task is to remove the near-side rear wheel to gain easier access to the pump. As soon as the total number of user requests for this tutorial reaches 100, well create a PDF tutorial and a video tutorial and email you links to them. Think more along the lines of the COMPOSITE stuff Glock uses in their handguns and youll begin to get the picture. Thanks. Want to mention another member in a post & get their attention? Note: These models were all originally positive earth but many have been converted to negative earth. I half expected it to go unanswered or to be undeliverable (thus confirming any fly by night suspicions). October 6, 2014 @ 9:23 am Delphi In-Line Electric Fuel Pump (FD0037) 0. Qty Req-1, Model-Roadsters GHN 3 44439 on (1964 on) & All GTs, Item Info 2-dual polarity, Qty Req-1, Item Info 2-All SU Points Type Pumps, Qty Req-1, Model-Roadsters GHN 3 44439 on (1964 on) & All GTs, Item Info 2-Negative Earth only, Qty Req-1, Model-Chrome Bumper Models Including V8, Qty Req-3, Model-Chrome Bumper Models Including V8, Item Info 2-bracket, Qty Req-3, Model-Chrome Bumper Models Including V8, Qty Req-1, Model-Chrome Bumper Models Including V8, Item Info 2-clamping pump in bracket, Qty Req-1, Model-Rubber Bumper Models Including V8, Item Info 2-pump mounting, Qty Req-1, Model-Rubber Bumper Models Including V8, Item Info 2-grommet - worm drive. (They may be the only manufacturer using optic switching in fuel pumps.) During the first year of ownership of my MGB there were 3 instances when the car lost power as if starved of fuel. DO NOT RUN PUMP DRY OR DAMAGE COULD RESULT TO PUMP. A known issue with the points type SU pump. $59.02. end and closed the line. Replacing a fuel pump should take about an hour for a skilled mechanic. Working normally for a minute then cutting out until it had time to rest. These pumps arent cheap and dont seem to be as reliable as modern pumps (in my case). MGB Fuel pumps Key No . If you need to replace the diode/resistor assembly, you will need to have the washer, but the cost of having one shipped from V/B. Everything torqued up fine. Submit your request. The person sheepishly admitted to using brass thread-to-barb type fittings obtained at an auto parts store. 75 MGB problem. Anton de Kock. Hey Guest - do you know of an upcoming British car event? So I can't find a Facet pump locally. I live hundreds of clicks from any sort of reliable roadside help so this aspect was important to me and I couldnt be happier. Is there gas in the tank - (Don't ask me how I know). You can ask a question about this replacement on our online. The cost of having the fuel pump replaced by a mechanic will generally be between $260 - $1009, and the price will vary greatly depending on the type of car you own. These free detailed Fuel Supply System manuals were compiled by professionals and are based on the design specifics of the particular model. The Fuelflow Solutions Limited SU Replacement Pumps are available in the correct range of flows and correct pressure ranges to directly replace and replicate the performance of any SU diaphragm style fuel pump, including the racing double headed pump. Just fitted the smaller model to my 75 Beetle after having too many problems with mechanical pump pushrod lengths. Qty: photos description Price: $14.00: MGB Fuel pump outlet flex hose 65-76 Item #: AHH7371 . Job done. One thing I noticed immediately. (for use on 1977-80 rubber bumper cars fitted with an earlier type of fuel tank with a threaded fuel pick-up in the body of the tank not the fuel tank sender unit. This can be an issue in solenoid driven pumps using inductive or magnetic switching. A lot of old school dealership mechanics were highly suspicious because the spark plug threads would always strip out so they werent as good as iron heads. Took a while for them to LEARN there was a difference and to change their techniques a bit (like not using an air wrench to tighten plugs! Due to factors beyond the control of Can't Let Her DieDIY, no information contained in this video shall create any express or implied warranty or guarantee of any particular result. Quantity Quantity. I remember when aluminum heads started to become standard on U.S. made autos. We are getting no fuel through the pump now. After setting for a few seconds, it started up and ran for a couple minutes and quit again. shouldn't be a problem - except that you will be blowing the clog back into the tank to re-offend at some other inopportune time. Thanks so much for all of the above praise and dialogue. Graham: The pumps are made from a range of high quality (composite) plastic materials that were chosen over metal simply because they are harder wearing, durable, light, and quiet,etc. Fuelflow Solutions Limited can be reached via their website: http://www.fuelflow.co.nz or their factory address: Fuelflow Solutions Ltd. Finally, make sure that the unions are really tight and refit the new rubber fuel pipe. Disconnect the fuel line at the carburetor and direct the line into a jar, marked at the 1 pint level. Now I was getting into a fuel system redesign On top of that, the cube type pumps are very noisy. 4 psi maximum. From the onset, he chose to use the then very modern material of plastic, which had comparable wear, durability, cost, as well as superior corrosion protection over metals. Their Rugby teams might not always be first class, but the Kiwis are on a winner with these. I contacted one poster in Europe via e-mail who said the threaded bosses of his pump cracked on a unit he got years ago. The OE banjo fittings and bolts were used, but with Fuelflows special washers against the pump body (stock sealing washers between the bolt and banjo fitting). See full listing. Place these over the holes for the top bolts. 1978 MGB - Part 7 Replacing the fuel tank and fuel pump! We checked and, sure enough, it had a hole. I have every expectation that its durability will be on par with modern day fuel pumps operated under similar conditions. Plastic Body Fuel Pump by ECCO, dual polarity . 100% Pressure and Flow-rate tested in-house Includes all required hardware for installation $30.79 type This brings us to Fuelflow Solutions Limiteds new name and current owner Mr. Graham Wilkinson who purchased the company in May 2009. The theory is a failure within the solenoid causing more current to be drawn and perhaps the electronics not being up to handling this surge. Would a points-type have fared any better? Depending on what model of pump you have, you should get 1 pint . While they benefit from modern technology and materials they also embody the traditional clicking of an SU pump and use self pressure regulating diaphragm operation (in the correct ranges) which was original to these cars. Ask questions or share your repair experience on the car forum. I now have one of your 15L12M pumps to be installed into my 57 MGA Roadster with an Automatic T35 tranny, 65 1800 5 main engine. Designed as a direct-fit replacement of your worn-out or malfunctioning part, it will provide easy,. Mark Scanlan. How about going with a modern cube type pump? The replacement tank hardware kit should have 5 metal clips where you will tighten the top bolts into place. Do not destroy any hardware that might need to be reused on replacement pump. Best the take the pump out with the pipework - and replace it with the pipework. When locating the new pump ensure that you connect the breather pipe and the electrical connections securely and tighten the bracket in place. 1966 MG MGB Fuel Pump Change Vehicle Review Fitment Notes Low Cost From $16.95 to $59.43 Showing 10 of 10 Results Click to Enlarge (Read Reviews) DriveBolt Electric Fuel Pump - In-Line Part Number: 16350-02305711 Brand: DriveBolt Notes: Electric Fuel Pump -- Universal Electric Pump Replaces Mechanical Pump; with 3/8 Inch Hose Inlet D. FUEL PUMP REPLACEMENT: Installation of replacement pump may require that some of the mounting or electrical hardware be reused. 377-436. plastic pump in about 1972 or so. Original part number is AZX1318, but positive earthed fuel pumps are non longer availables : Fortunately SU fuel pumps are now dual polarity. Maybe it is an aversion in the US to imported products in general but other than Moss Motors, our pumps are not marketed in the US at all. At this time the company name was changed from Auto Pumps Limited to Fuelflow Systems Limited. A 100 points restoration will likely not be driven regularly and MUST be fitted with all correct, original equipment, whereby a daily driver will likely have sensible modifications and upgrades to make it useable in a modern environment. 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Next, disconnect the unions and breather pipe, loosen the pump bracket (normally two bolts) and remove the pump, being careful with the electrical connections. Absolutely NO CUT intended of courseonly a compliment and a hearty THANK YOU!! Wellwe have gas in the tank. I seem to recall that this is WAY too much. It could also be caused by an air leak on the inlet side of the pump (anywhere from the pickup tube in the tank, the fuel line from the tank to the pump, or in the pump itself). No modifying the OE harness was necessary. Was easy to install and works great. Car started right up and ran well for about 10 minutes then quit. My MGB GT is a positive earthed mark 1. If not, your avatar will default to the 1st character in your username. This pump is self regulating so there is no need to install a separate regulator to manage pressure, This pump features a uniquely designed restrictor tube to maintain a stable fuel system pressure between 3-4 psi in a return-to-tank system. Lets consider this item a variation of the first generation plastic pump. Its no good trying to remove pipework by releasing the banjo fittings on the pump from under the car as you cant get any leverage. Fuel Pump Assembly - SU Electronic Type - Original Design - Negative Earth - AZX1311EL Requires 2 x 150942 bolt for installation Qty Req-1, Model-Roadsters GHN 3 44439 on (1964 on) & All GTs, Negative Earth only 4.5Read 3 Review (s) Rate and Review this Product AZX1311EL In stock Most express orders ship today! have to replace it soon. Weve been exporting to almost every other country for over 50 years but the US is a particularly difficult market to engage with for some reason. I found experts who condemned them without ever trying them. 100% Pressure and Flow-rate tested in-house Includes all required hardware for installation $32.09 Changing MG MGB Fuel Pump: step-by-step manuals Here you will find step-by-step tutorials and tips on changing the Fuel Pump on your MG MGB. Price and other details may vary based on product size and color. Classic Mini, Austin Healey, MGB 1962-69, Midget & Sprite 1962-69. I'll try to pay more attention and save myself some time! Knowing the character of a company is important since it will be reflected in whatever they make. Next, disconnect the unions and breather pipe, loosen the pump bracket (normally two bolts) and remove the pump, being careful with the electrical connections. A thorough examination of the entire fuel AND electrical/ground systems revealed nothing amiss, and I suspected that many of the previous pumps may have failed due to prolonged sitting (often months) between drives. Yep, down there they race sidecars, over dirt, tarmac, moguls, and (occasionally) each other.They seek out Fuelflow Solutions composite pumps because methanol fuel is used which has rotted out ANY other pump sometimes in one race. I disconnected a joint in the fuel line and fitted a longer length of fuel pipe leading into a poly plastic bottle, switched on the ignition and after 1 minute i dont think i got even a quarter pint!! Scroll down for links to part, products and tools. The pump itself isnt much to look at. I used crimp-on male spade connectors to allow the pump to plug into the stock wiring harness using the OE female spades. Keep your classic MG on the road with high quality parts from British Parts Northwest. Guess Graham is pretty serious about this quality stuff! Another SU perhaps? But I wanted an original SU replacement to avoid any change in pump's fittings and hoses. In the mid 1960s the first plastic SU type pump was born and made commercially available under the brand name Auto Pumps Limited. Pump runs,filter between tank and pump is clear. Indeed, many of these improvements can make the difference between being able to use the vehicle in a modern traffic environment with confidence, or one becoming a garage queen. Overall, its the character that counts so much in the classic British car ownership experience. Indeed, Ive done many of the upgrades mentioned earlier, and all have contributed significantly to its usability, reliability, and my enjoyment of the car without compromising that all important character. Not a country that pops to mind for automotive products. mgb will not remain running after start disengaged. The ECCO SU style replacement pump by Fuelflow Solutions Limited is definitely worth considering if you are looking for a plug and play high reliability option that retains, in a small way, the character of the classic British car. We have a special forum called "Member Articles" where you can submit actual articles for consideration for publication. Mr. Hogg was an auto electrician who acted as an SU Service Agent (or what would likely be known today as a Factory Rep) until the mid 1960s. This in the market then out of the market reality marginalized the entire products perception and credibility. Either option seemed to have its limitations to being truly reliable, for some reason, in this car. '64 MGB, '67 Lotus Elan S-3 DHC,'69 Lotus Elan +2. It contains all the parts required to replace your existing fuel pump. You'll be glad you did. air leak between the tank and the pump. I suggest to use some masking tape to hold them in place, as these will move a bit when you install the tank and you don't want to go fishing for them from underneath the vehicle. But in researching the records provided by the previous owners, I realized this will be the ninth fuel pump replacement! How to install the SU Fuel Pump the easy way without destroying the clamp and rubber grommet. Cover the exposed spline or hub to avoid getting greasy. If you see the level going down and up repeatedly while the fuel pump is clicking like mad, then the intake valve is stuck in the open position. The Story of the Kiwi Composite Fuel Pump. It was MUCH lighter at 1.25 lbs. The usual explanation, as in this case, is a faulty fuel pump that can be coaxed back into life, if all be it temporary, with a swift clout from a spanner. There seemed to be opinions on them having questionable reliability and construction. Yeah, theyre plastic. But not the cheap kind of plastic. Simply disconnect the intake fuel hose (flexible pipe) from the fuel tank and place it in a small transparent container of fuel. Alternator Conversions from Muenchausens Garage. The composite materials are ethanol proof, and not affected by any type of motor fuel. 100% manufactured right here in our custom built factory in sunny, clean, beautiful New Zealand. Some said they werent made anymore because the quality was so bad the company went bust. Instead, I thought Id take the opportunity to learn more about the company, their products, how they are made, what issues will they acknowledge, and what their philosophy is. Being housed in an exposed position under the car (rubber bumper models had the pump relocated inside the boot) means that the fuel pump is vulnerable to both damage and corrosion and eventually it is going to reach the end of its useable life. has the tank been cleaned? Use the search bar or filters to quickly find a suitable video or PDF tutorial to replace the Fuel Pump on your MG MGB yourself. If you have a leak in this pipe it introduces air into the fuel system and changes the mixture. By adding to cart, and placing an order, you will secure your place in line when the product arrives. Thanks for this review its put my mind at rest. This pipe has a nut & olive at one end and . GAS CAP, locking, MG logo . Actually, upper RPM power was a bit stronger. You order one up and swap it out. MG MGB 1.8L 1976, In-Line Electric Fuel Pump by GMB. Docsometimes I readd too fast or not completely :frown: I guess. . Enter your email address to follow this website and receive notifications of new posts by email. I had a spare pump that i had bought about a year ago as a standby because from my minivan days i knew these pumps have a high risk of problems so time to fit it. These have a taper on them and use the threads to seal via progressive expansion. By really skilled people whose fingerprints you will see on every pump if you look closely enough. I found a lot of opinions and anecdotal experiences, but not a whole lot of facts. An engine that "chokes out" or dies after running for a while or up to temperature. Hmmmm BTW, Graham is proud of his pump mounts. However, Id look for Fuelflow Solutions Limited full range of offerings to expand in the U.S. market over the next several years. (Therefore, it can be used in either positive or negative ground application.) 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