The University had on its books the physics department's first graduate program called Chemical Physics. It wasn't easy for the company to do all that. Housing protections include being unfairly evicted, denied housing, or refused the ability to rent or buy housing. [Laugh] While liquid crystals could get that feature, it had a very short temperature range. Somehow, I just thought it was important for our program to do that. You mentioned GM and Tektronix. The relationship and collaboration between industry and Kent State University during Doanes directorship was important to the growth of the LCI. I think he was able to keep everybody here and keep the place running. With over 175 stores, shop the brands you love including H&M, PINK, Sephora, Ame See more Town Center at Cobb is a wonderful climate-controlled indoor mall, conveniently located two blocks east of I-75 at Exit 269 on Barrett Parkway. I have lost track of where they're sold now but I think mostly overseas. My Toy Chest. [Laugh]CRAWFORD: How does the surface of the Boogie Board record the writing? When I first started to work on liquid crystals many scientists didnt think it was a different state of matter and of little interest. Universities run on endowments, too. I'll fund this company and Joel can be the financial officer." [End Part 1][Start Part 2]MATTHEW CRAWFORD: My name is Matthew Crawford. It really helps to have a relevancy to your research work rather than just being something of interest.] Akron contributed really nicely to the display technology because with polymers, they could make things like retardation films, and Akron really got involved. I was further able to convince them, because Kent Displays was very small and didn't have much of an R&D unit, to let us use their facilities, at a cost, of course, to develop the technology further. But, luckily I had these polymer dispersions that I discovered with my friend Pino and they had shown promise for switchable windows. And that was fine, I did, too. From what I understand, today, it's still a lot like that. I do remember Tektronix because I was surprised they did that. That's what I did for my personal research however it was a small part of the overall program. I was really impressed. It stands for Advanced Liquid Crystal Optical Materials. From that review paper, he learned a lot about who was doing what and where, so he organized the first International Liquid Crystal Conference.CRAWFORD: I just wanted to ask you quickly, I know you weren't involved in liquid crystals at this time, but now having had a career in liquid crystals and having met lots of people, part of the sort of historical narrative about liquid crystals, from what I understand at this point, is that they were discovered in the late 19th century, 1888 or thereabouts. As it turns out, there are a number different ways you can make a display with a liquid crystal. He wanted to be where there were some trees. - City . She was fluent in German and Spanish. Nuclear magnetic resonance turned out to be a really good tool for that. Some agreed to put large sums of money directly into the Institute for further development of polymer dispersions. A year earlier, they had awarded 12 of these. Glenn was opposed to that but he did not stop me from pursuing the issue . Being a scientist isn't just science. CRAWFORD: It really seems to force the question of application.DOANE: Yes, it forces the question of applications. And I think your work is absolutely essential in exploring how all of this happened and getting the history on it right. you lucky dog. The acronym for it was NCIPT, the National Center for Integrated Photonic Technology, funded by DARPA. But I did follow what Asad did for the company during the pandemic, and I thought he did a fine job. Also, as a blackboard or white board replacement, it is not messy; that is, you dont need chalk or ink. You can even write on it and store it on your cell phone if you want to. Together, we went to many US and foreign companies and found ourselves negotiating license agreements. Also researchers at Kent were not developing material for displays, but they could have been.] She'd recall these numbers easily as she was a superb manager.CRAWFORD: What did this mean in terms of the research agenda, either for your group or the Institute as a whole? What kind of work were you planning on doing with NMR?DOANE: We started out on a number of different topics. He said, "These are the electronics for a cosmic-ray telescope." Another great incentive is that your university appointments are only for nine months, and you've got to support your family in the summertime. It really got into the writing experience, as well as advancing it to fit this into digital technology, how to do it in color, things like that. The viewing angle was a big issue on displays. WILLIAM DOANE: Thanks for inviting me. By that time, Sardari Arora had left. Listing Provided Courtesy of Is there anything we haven't discussed that you think is particularly important? However, up until the ALCOM Center, nobody knew how to electronically switch it from one texture to the other. It was a form of technology transfer. A successful company generates royalties for the university They build upon each other.] If we had such an electrical engineering department, we probably could've done it, but we didn't have one. Those were kind of my early years. I did consider staying there. However, now I had a system that looked like I could do applied research. To me, it was a good way to focus.CRAWFORD: And you saw liquid crystals as something that had broader utility.DOANE: Yeah. When Al Green joined we already had this manufacturing line. But I was hooked right away. The University of Akron was quite agreeable. He retired from Kent State University and the LCI in 1996. I thought, "Here comes Jim Fergason again! [Laugh] I thought that was a great hire because the Institute really needed somebody who was doing applied work. Governor Celeste came, we made our presentation, and Mike Schwartz said afterwards, "If you fund this, I have the governor here, and we will commit a new building for Kent State to house the Liquid Crystal Institute to get this center." It wasn't long after that, I changed to physics. At the time, lasers had just come out. Here, you had to put these transistors on large surfaces for TV and other display screens. There's a lot of industry here. [audio cuts out] [However, that was just a small part of the overall program as at least half of the faculty in the physics department and many in the chemistry department became heavily involved in liquid crystal research involving theory and numerous different experiment techniques. I then had a formal role in the Institute. We need a license to do it." [Laugh]CRAWFORD: But it really says something about how important the LCI had become. And by then, things weren't working out well with Saupe, either. If it didn't have that film on it, you could only see it if you were looking directly at it. Al didn't want to get involved in the lawsuit probably because his former student working with him had worked for Hoffmann-La Roche. The State of Ohio money helped it with manufacturing. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. I, with my students and postdocs even discovered some unique phase properties with magnetic resonance that could not be observed any other way; that sort of stuff. Obviously, they weren't going to go to Japan because they wanted their own technologies. DOANE: Yes, I think that's [one major benefit]. CRAWFORD: ALCOM is funded in 1991, and five years later, you retire. But we really made a nice presentation. We had a big handicap here at Kent State because there was no electrical engineering department at Kent at that time. You couldn't make it very bright. you can use w.e you think the best tick look-a-like would be but i'd bank with something like a couple pieces of activated charcoa Before that, it was sort of informal. First, I wanted to start spin-off companies. After Senior Research Fellows served in that position for a while, they found themselves directing graduate students and doing almost the same things as university professors do. That was even before the shootings. I don't think they had any effect on the Institute or what it was doing. 2 Beds; 2.5 Baths Stamford Town Center mall has been acquired by home-furnishings company Safavieh, which has a store at 230 Atlantic St., yards from the mall. They're up in a little town, Kent, Ohio." The things people tend to look down upon or push aside usually contain the opportunities. But I'd say from Kent State University's point of view, it was the visibility in the science field. But after two years, passing all these candidacy exams, all this coursework, I talked to Shirley, and we thought maybe it would be the thing to do. I started applying at various places, and there was this one school looking for people. I think Professor Saupe was the only one in the early stages who really had a professorship. It was manufacturable, you could coat it and do various things you could not do with liquid crystals alone. CRAWFORD: It sounds like your basic research at the molecular level was around understanding the structure and fluctuations of liquid crystals.DOANE: [In my own research group we studied how the molecules ordered, moved, wiggled, diffused, and how these features changed from one liquid crystal phase to another. Xerox was studying its electro-optical properties. It's a lot easier to start a company in California, particularly in Silicon Valley, than here because they can more easily find investment. Its behind Papa Johns Pizza.CRAWFORD: On Lincoln Street?DOANE: Yeah. I wanted to make a success out of KDI. The other texture is transparent. India, Russia, Japan, all over the place. CRAWFORD: They've basically shut campus down. However, licensing in general is not a very good business to be in no matter who you are, I found out. There are 2 Retail spaces available for lease at 390 Ernest W Barrett Pkwy, Kennesaw, GA, 30144, totaling 3,419 SF. One, he filled with Jim Fergason. I had a quote from Glenn Brown I wanted to read for you. The two come together through technology transfer and patent agreements]. Then, there was another project he was very excited about, and I thought it was interesting, too, because it was more electronics-oriented. My colleague, Pino, who was named on the patent, wanted to publish all this stuff. He needed a graduate student, so we decided I'd stay and work with him.CRAWFORD: What was his name?DOANE: His name was Roland Hultsch. I couldn't come into my lab, and there was a short time we couldn't do things.CRAWFORD: But it didn't lead to a sense of, "Maybe we should downplay our support from the military"?DOANE: No. Best Buy Kennesaw 850 Cobb Place Blvd NW Kennesaw, GA 30144 Get Directions 1000 feet 250 m 2023 Microsoft Corporation Terms Store Hours Open Now - Closes at 8:00 PM Curbside Pickup Hours Open Now - Closes at 8:00 PM E-mail Us (770) 424-7868 Top Deals On this Page: Shop Specialty Shops & Services Promotions FAQs Reviews Nearby Stores About An ad blocker has likely prevented this video content from . You could pump it at one frequency and look at another frequency at an enhanced signal. My only problem with Jim is, I thought it would've been nice if he could've been more interactive with the academic part of it. For writing tablets, this allows one to make a simple writing device in which you write with a pointed stylus and erase with the push of a button. But with the rise of online shopping and shifting consumer . Request Tour Send an Email Highlights Here are some of the most popular amenities Air Conditioning Floor Plans 1 unit available Studio The College of Wooster is down the road, and we've had a lot of students from there. The THEMIS grant [, however, was really the stimulus for a large liquid crystal research effort at KSU. He was just getting into it.CRAWFORD: At this meeting, was he just mentioning this as [inaudible]DOANE: I don't recall all the details of that meeting but I am sure he must have because that's where it hit me that this seemed to be a neat field. I didn't view it as a building necessarily with its own administrative structure, rather as a building to support research. Glenn called me into his office and wanted to talk about Jim Fergason. We have partnered with That was a discovery that turned out to be not only of scientific interest but also ended up in many applications. A university cannot and should not try to compete with industries on problems of interest to industry. DOANE: You can find venture capitalists, but finding one that fits with you can be an issue. They were not even speaking with one another after a short while.CRAWFORD: What was the nature of the disagreement between Brown and Fergason, a cleavage between applied and [basic research]? Is it based on the pressure?DOANE: The Boogie Board makes use of a type of liquid crystal that's extremely unique. They knew how to do that very well. Kent State made money on licensing, [but they didnt make a lot in view of work and the trouble it can cause, particularly if the patent is challenged and there is a court battle. DOANE: First of all, investment. They picked and chose those principal investigators in the THEMIS grant they wanted to fund. Licensing, in general, I found not to be a very good business for a university. She was wanting to start a family, and we thought we could do that, even while I was in graduate school. I didn't know Wil could write so well. CRAWFORD: By secrets, youre talking about intellectual property?DOANE: [Yeah, primarily intellectual property but also research results. It was the rise of Hitler and that sort of stuff. That was my focus at that time. Because I was working on it, and other people in the physics department began to notice. [There were other companies that could make a high-resolution display without transistors but they were not suitable for the military. You can't have any dust particles around. But the professors themselves often are the ones [who often want to keep hold of that technology. I stopped and looked at it. DOANE: Campus is a great place to walk and ride bikes, but I don't like to go there when it is shut down because it's so depressing to me.CRAWFORD: And that's a really good example of what you were saying about how the pandemic has impacted social interactions. USC applied, I applied, and so did these other universities.] Very strong lady administratively who would take the bull by the horns. Not only displays, we had work going on with steering laser beams, night vision, and other optical devices. I wanted something like MIT and Stanford, where they had companies building up all around the universities. Oftentimes, people talk about academic research, especially at this time, as being more independent because there weren't private interests, they weren't working for a company's lab. CRAWFORD: Would you say that's true for yourself, that you've learned better when you can see the uses?DOANE: Oh, yeah. 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Being at a small grade school, I really was not exposed to that much science. When we discovered how to do that we realized we could make a nice electronically addressed display out of it. But when it's on campus, that's an issue you have. Even then, when I wrote the patent, I knew nothing about licensing. When I lectured, even in elementary physics, I paid a lot of attention to demonstrations, rather than standing up at the blackboard. Welcome Home! It really was a part of the University, yet set apart from the university research campus. In fact, this company has received funds from the state of Ohio. Aleks Gilbert. [Laugh]CRAWFORD: Trying to build a community, then.DOANE: Yeah. A lot of their sales, I think, are foreign. I don't know whether I'm responsible for this, but I think the center got Steve Forrest at USC focused on using light-emitting diodes for displays. If I get into this now, it'll take us into the separate issues, the flat panel display field.CRAWFORD: Maybe one way to approach this would be, what was your sense of Dr. Brown's vision for the Institute?DOANE: His vision of the Institute, as I understood it, he wanted it to be an academic institute, but he didn't want it on the research campus where other Kent State science research was going on. What did it mean to you to receive these awards?DOANE: It's kind of nice. [Laugh] The Japanese were able to [develop this at the high volume manufacturing level.] That's perfect. That's what I did. Why don't we pause for now? ]CRAWFORD: I would imagine as a company, it's beneficial to have students, both undergraduates and graduates, who can come here and work that you know have experience in physics.DOANE: Particularly experience in liquid crystals. People in the science field compete with industries on problems of interest to industry enhanced. Lincoln Street? 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